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"Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available" (whoistheleader2) 08/31/2020 at 16:05 • Filed to: shortest tallest buildings

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Bank of America Plaza, Atlanta, facing away from the other tall buildings

In a topic completely unrelated to anything, I started thinking about people’s submissions for the tallest building in their state for the Oppo Hunt.

I’m spoiled obviously by living a short walk away from Bank of America Plaza, the tallest building in the Southeast US. At 1,023 feet tall, it is the fifth tallest ‘tallest building in a US state/territory’ and one of only 6 ‘tallest buildings in a US state/territory’ that exceeds 1,000 feet.

But it got me thinking: what are the shortest ‘state’s/territory’s ta llest buildings’ around? Let’s start with the states !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

Vermont - Decker towers, 124'

It actually looks shorter than 11 stories if I’m being honest. I am surprised it doesn’t even appear to be in a very built up area. It’s just a regular apartment building. And it’s held the record since 1971. I don’t know if that signals a popular disdain for tall buildings or just an abundance of cheap land.

Wyoming - Wyoming Financial Center, 148'

Okay, c’mon Wyoming, you can do better than that. It’s 11 stories and predictably no one has ever bothered to take a good photo of it. Even Wikipedia doesn’t have a photo of it. At least it’s not an ancient apartment building. Built in 1990.

South Dakota - CenturyLink Tower, 174'

What is with states having an 11 story building as their tallest? Here’s another, anyways. Constructed in 1986, it has held the record for quite some time.

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Built in 1890, this beautiful old church is one ‘state’s tallest building’ I can get behind. It’s impressive that the structure has held the title for 130 years. No longer functioning as a religious institution, it currently hosts events including weddings. The interior is absolutely stunning.

North Dakota - State Capitol Building, 242'

Built in 1934 and topping out at 19 stories tall, this is the first point at which I think the shortest ‘tallest buildings in a US state’ start to actually be able to be considered tall by modern standards. It’s only 20' taller than the three story Agora Grand Event Center in Maine, but it also doesn’t have a height raising pointed roof. This is also built in a style unusual for state capitols.

Now, how about the US territor ies?

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Really, this is the only photo I could find and it is via the government’s website

Poor American Samoa with their overlooked 4 story government office as the territory’s tallest building.

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Ah, the Frenchman’s Reef & Morning Star Marriott Beach Resort. I’m not surprised it is a luxury resort. Built in 1973, it is still only 8 floors high.

In all fairness, I have to point out Guam has a 377' building called Oceana Tower 2 but that’s not what this post is about. Also, I’m not trying to poke fun at anyone because population density is not a good measure of a state’s success but it is an interesting statistic.

So, Oppo, what are the tallest buildings in your states/countries? My state’s tallest building is slightly taller than the tallest building in the UK so there’s that.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:13

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I was just there a couple of weeks ago. One Shell Plaza (now called the Hancock Whitney Center). At 697 feet, i t’s been the tallest in the state since ‘72 and was once the tallest in the southeastern  U.S.

For Sweden > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:15

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residential  skyscrapers  with  taco  truck  parking  on  every  corner

wafflesnfalafel > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:15

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interesting - I would have guessed North Dakota...

HammerheadFistpunch > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:16

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Wyoming doesn’t surprise me at all. My wife had a friend in college who grew up in Woodruff utah, just outside of Evanston WY and she had never...NEVER...been on an elevator.  Had no idea how to work them.

lone_liberal > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:17

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I think the Columbia Center in Seattle at 76 stories and 933ft. At least according to the Google. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 16:18

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Never. . . what? Climbed a set of stairs?

PowderHound > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:19

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Wells Fargo building in Salt Lake is 422ft tall. One other above 400 feet. 10 in the 300 foot. 48th highest in Salt Lake is 102 feet. Wikipedia only shows Salt Lake and not the entire state of Utah but there are maybe a couple of tall buildings in Provo and that’s about it

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > TheRealBicycleBuck 08/31/2020 at 16:20

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It’s surprising how a 600 foot building doesn’t really look that much shorter than a 1000 foot building. Everyone thinks Peachtree Plaza is the tallest building in Georgia (it’s the third tallest) and it’s 200 feet shorter than Bank of America Plaza.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > For Sweden 08/31/2020 at 16:20

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The obvious solution to not enough Taco truck parking is double decker trucks and built in serving windows in the top so they can park close to balconies.

HammerheadFistpunch > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:21

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Sorry, published too soon, I fixed it.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > wafflesnfalafel 08/31/2020 at 16:21

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As the shortest ‘tallest building?’ I never would have guessed Vermont.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:22

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We’ve got “ Epic Center” right down the street from me. 385' looks pretty tall in Wichita, Kansas.

From wikipedia:

“ Originally, the plans called for two twin towers to be built, but those plans were scrapped in favor of a single tower due to the fear that the occupancy level would never reach near capacity. At the time, this led to a local joke referring to the development as “Epic Off-Center”, but that epithet is now largely forgotten.”

For Sweden > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:24

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We have taco drones for higher floors

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > PowderHound 08/31/2020 at 16:27

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Pretty much all of these are in Atlanta despite being a city chosen for development for its complete lack of natural barriers to growth.

I’d be interested to see the median building height for buildings above 100 feet. Statistics are fun if they’re inconsequential  and it’s not you compiling them.

that has a different height for Bank of America because the roof is just a large decorative trellis that cannot be inhabited but I think it counts.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:27

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We have a giant dildo in SF

HammerheadFistpunch > PowderHound 08/31/2020 at 16:28

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I work at KBT, and I have been to the roof.  Tall it aint.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > lone_liberal 08/31/2020 at 16:29

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That’s one pretty building. Me likey. It looks taller than it is compared to Bank of America Plaza (the exact same height if you don’t count the decorative non inhabitable crown) because of how thin and relatively delicate it looks from that angle. They always look so much taller when they are isolated from the other tall buildings.

Just Jeepin' > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 16:30

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I have no idea what my first elevator ride was, but I do remember the one and only time I rode in an elevator that still had an operator, in Chicago. That was unexpected.

Just Jeepin' > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/31/2020 at 16:30

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I thought he was threatening to go to Kenosha. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 16:31

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I was close. Hahaha that’s, well, that’s like stories of midwesterners not knowing how to hold speed up a hill or maybe Georgians freaking out over a few inches of snow (unprepped roads are the real killer). 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:33

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I enjoyed this. Here’s hoping nothing changes in Maine.

Oklahoma’s tallest building is in OKC: 850' (tallest building between Chicago & Dallas and westward, until you hit California), with the next tallest in town at 500'. Tulsa has 667', 648' (not downtown), 516', and 513'.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/31/2020 at 16:33

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Hmmmmm you’re not wrong

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 16:35

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That’s fantastic.

My girlfriend-at-the-time (now wife) grew up in Kansas and she had never...NEVER...been on a road that curved. Had no idea how to work them. =)

TheJWT > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:36

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Ohio’s tallest is Key Tower, a couple blocks from my office. I eat my lunch in the park in front of it sometimes. I actually really like how it looks, it was designed by Cesar Pelli and it’s the tallest building in the midwest,outside of Chicago

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 08/31/2020 at 16:39

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I’m sorry but Epic Center is kind of a gimmicky name.

Can confirm: Bank of America Plaza would look pretty tall anywhere. Up close it doesn’t really look any taller than a 500' building though. The fourth tallest building in the state is what everyone commonly thinks is the tallest.

But yeah we have a 470 foot tall atrium (well, 4 technically because the middle divides them) that used to be the world’s largest so my scale of “tall” is a little skewed.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > For Sweden 08/31/2020 at 16:40

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Woah can we have some of those?

PowderHound > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 16:40

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I’m quite ok with there not being massively tall buildings

For Sweden > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:41

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I wish. The NIMBYS banned tacos :(

facw > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:44

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I’ve been told that the main tower at the National Naval Medical Center (now merged with Walter Reed) was inspired by North Dakota’s Capitol, though aside from both being Art Deco buildings with similar proportions, I don’t think the resemblance is that close (and the naval building is definitely more graceful):

It’s also not even the tallest building in Bethesda, that honor going to the 288ft North Bethesda Market I while also being surpassed by Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s One White Flint North, which tops out two feet higher at 266ft. The left and right towers in this picture respectively:

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/31/2020 at 16:46

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Eh Maine could maybe replace the aging apartment building with something nice and down to earth. Maybe only an ungodly 9 stories tall.

we have a 470 foot tall atrium (well, 4 technically because the middle divides them) so that’s significantly taller than a substantial portion of states’ tallest buildings. You really notice how tall 470' is when you see it in negative space.

But those building heights are pretty impressive. That’s especially substantial given the wide open plains the city is built on. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > TheJWT 08/31/2020 at 16:49

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That is very nice indeed. at 948' it’s very similar to Bank of America Plaza in height and proportions. It sure towers over the downtown. You get a great view of it because of how it stands isolated from view blockers.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 16:50

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Interesting. I can see the resemblance a little but it’s really just proportions and material as you said.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > For Sweden 08/31/2020 at 16:51

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If you wouldn’t crunch so loudly in public and make audible “mmmm” sounds this wouldn’t have happened.

facw > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:55

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We’re reasonably respectable here in Massachusetts with the 790 ft John Hancock Tower (now officially something else as John Hancock has moved).

It was a bit of a disaster for architect I.M. Pei as it turned out the windows fell out in high winds:

Installation of two 300-ton tuned mass dampers and 1500 tons of bracing solved the building’s issues.

The buildings to the right of it above are the 749 ft Prudential Tower (the previous tallest, and still the record holder if you count its radio mast which takes it to 907 ), and the brand new 742 ft One Dalton Place (you’d think they’d have tacked on a few more floors to grab the honors)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:56

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Maine’s the old church!

That’s an awesome atrium.

Oil money, man... Frank Lloyd Wright’s one and one skyscraper is in Bartlesville. It has so many weird things about it - the elevators are triangular.

https://www.archdaily.com/124191/ad-classics-price-tower-frank-lloyd-wright

facw > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:58

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Have you been to Vermont? It’s a pretty place, but there’s no one there. There’s about 60,000 people in Burlington/South Burlington, and then the next largest city is less than 20,000 people.

lone_liberal > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 16:58

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That picture was taken from the Smith Tower (named after the typewriter Smith) which was built in 1914 and was the tallest west of the Mississippi until 1931 at 484 ft. Kind of a cool building in its own right.

facw > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/31/2020 at 17:01

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Careful, you don’t want to hurt Salesforce’s feelings...

Though maybe we could figure out a way to lift the much coo ler Transamerica Pyramid 220 ft to reclaim its title?

facw > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:06

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I do give North Dakota credit for doing something other than the traditional domed state house. Looks like Nebraska and Louisiana are the only other ones with towers as their main buildings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_and_territorial_capitols_in_the_United_States

TheRealBicycleBuck > HammerheadFistpunch 08/31/2020 at 17:07

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My old dean told me a story about a kid who had never been outside his county. Since it was all forests managed for lumber, he’d never seen one growing wild. I think his words were, “what’s WRONG with your trees?”

onlytwowheels > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:08

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Tallest building in Maine, 220'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_Grand_Event_Center

facw > For Sweden 08/31/2020 at 17:10

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Hard to believe this was only four years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_trucks_on_every_corner

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/31/2020 at 17:13

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Dang it let’s not bulldoze that.

The Marriott Marquis atrium is easily the most impressive interior space I have ever laid eyes on. It’s shockingly immense.

I might want to look into that. Rectalinear elevators are so played out. Fun fact: we just got a nice talk elevator testing facility that hasn't received the beautiful face we've been promised yet.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > onlytwowheels 08/31/2020 at 17:15

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Probably the oldest 'tallest building's in a state. You used the same photo as in my article haha.

facw > lone_liberal 08/31/2020 at 17:16

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Probably the tallest typewriter building since the 612ft Singer Building was demolished in 1968:

The Singer Building (briefly the tallest building in the world) has long held the record for tallest building to be peacefully demolished, though the former Union Carbide Building (707ft) is currently under demolition and will seize that dubious honor.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 17:18

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Wait they didn't want the windows to have a quick release system? That's a whole lot of competition for the crown. Strange that none of them tried to add just a few more floors.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 17:19

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I’m in my phone, so I can’t show you the glimmering golden done of the Georgia Capitol building. It’s something unique while playing on the classic style. I do respect that they did something different. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 17:19

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And cooler named. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > lone_liberal 08/31/2020 at 17:21

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That reminds me of a rather rundown looking building here in the ATL with the single tower at a corner. That's pretty impressive for 1931.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:21

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The tallest building in Texas is the JP Morgan Chase Tower in downtown Houston, TX at 1,002' .

What you may also find interesting is The Williams Tower (known as the Transco Tower to older locals) is the tallest skyscraper in the US outside of a central business district at 901' tall. Here’s a neat picture that kind of illustrates how it stands alone.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 17:22

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I'm not convinced that is a high honor but sure does make for some interesting trivia. Singer doesn't do quite as much business anymore now.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/31/2020 at 17:23

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I heard you're a wimp if you change speed for a 20° turn.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > TheRealBicycleBuck 08/31/2020 at 17:24

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Haha that's so right. I imagine many people have said the same thing about Atlanta's road network. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 17:25

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Never been up that way. Or anywhere for that matter. It just isn’t the state you’d think of as having the shortest tallest building.

ClassicDatsunDebate > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:26

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I took these on May 7th, 2019.

ClassicDatsunDebate > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:31

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I stayed in the Marquis just after the olympics.  it was pretty rad.

onlytwowheels > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:33

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I switched from a night time photo too..... it’s was blurry. Second tallest is a church too @ 204'. Many of the tallest buildings here are churches.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_the_Immaculate_Conception_(Portland,_Maine)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:33

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So, our first road trip together, we’re driving through the Appalachians in the middle of the night, on the way to the ocean . I’d driven most of the way, but I needed a rest. We were in my car, and she didn’t really know how to drive a manual, but I told her I’d help her get up to speed on an on-ramp , and then she could just leave it in top gear on the highway and drive for a while, and then just pull off and stop on the shoulder of an off-ramp when it was my turn again. Well, I get her going and fall asleep and then at some point she wakes me up shouting. We’re on a divided, two-level highway, in the middle of a long curve, she’s got a concrete wall on her left and a semi on her right and she’s coming up to a tunnel - LOL! Thankfully she kept it together long enough to get somewhere where she could pull off and let me take over.

She’s a much better driver now.

facw > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:34

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I see it:

Massachusetts is similarly gleaming, though the building is done in colonial-era brick (2nd oldest after Annapolis I believe):

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:37

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I thought it looked familiar - I’ve stayed there (years & years ago).

It’s not exactly triangular, but close, and small. Like, if you were in there with 2 other family members, it would still be uncomfortable how close you were to each other.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:39

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However the tallest building would be this:

Thomas Donohue > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:39

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At 1,023 feet tall, it is the fifth tallest ‘tallest building in a US state/territory’ and one of only 6 ‘tallest buildings in a US state/territory’ that exceeds 1,000 feet.

Those are odd designations, as they leave out all the other tall buildings. T he Atlanta BoA building wouldn’t crack the top 10 in NYC . It would be below the Chrysler Building, built in 1930.  

Not calling it short..... anything above 1000 ft is f —king tall!

Similar to Vermont, NJ’s highest building is also residential, albeit a bit higher at 900 feet . Not shockingly, it has views of New York City. It’s currently the ‘ tallest residential tower in the US that’s not in NY or Chicago’ .

WilliamsSW > ClassicDatsunDebate 08/31/2020 at 17:49

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Both observation decks in one day?  Nice

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:53

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Seattle’s Columbia Center was formerly known as the Bank of America Tower.

It’s not particularly attractive from the street level, and it’s been called the Darth Vader building by locals for ages.

Mercedes Streeter > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 17:56

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*Laughs in former tallest stick in America*

(Darn One WTC  spire)

facw > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 08/31/2020 at 17:57

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Shopping malls need skyscrapers too!

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Mercedes Streeter 08/31/2020 at 18:08

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Wait so first it was the Sears Tower and then the Willis Tower and now WTC Spire? That’s a stupid name.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Thomas Donohue 08/31/2020 at 18:11

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The entire point of the post was making up odd designations. We have the tallest building in the western hemisphere to be occupied only by a hotel so there’s that. Westin Peachtree Plaza.

We also have the former largest atrium in the world. Mariott Marquis.

And we have the world’s largest aquarium which is pretty hefty too. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/31/2020 at 18:12

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Both are certifiably bigly. Impressive.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ClassicDatsunDebate 08/31/2020 at 18:14

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BTW you don’t have to credit your photos in the comments section. Chicago. Nice! They’ve got some big ol buildings. I love those high viewing areas. Makes you realize just how expansive the metropolitan area is.

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:14

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As a Vermont native, I’m utterly unsurprised by the claim regarding the shortest tallest building - it pairs nicely with the smallest biggest city title . But the W iki citation for Vermont’s tallest is wrong, according to OTHER parts of Wikipedia itself ! ( Fry shocked /not that shocked .jpg)

Two churches, the State House, and Montpelier’s city hall all beat Decker Towers in overall height, but have fewer floors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Vermont

That puts Wyoming in first (or last?) place, if its listing is accurate.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 08/31/2020 at 18:15

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Both are just barely beaten but very impressive. I wonder why that tower was built so far outside the typical highrise financial district. Atlanta has a few isolated pockets of tall buildings and the general skylines follows the highway north to south instead of radiating outwards. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > onlytwowheels 08/31/2020 at 18:16

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Makes sense. Those steeples can really get up there. I suppose that’s one of the only use cases for height around there.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > facw 08/31/2020 at 18:17

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Yeah you can spot that golden dome from the interstate. Pretty distinctive. 

OmerCarrothers333 > PowderHound 08/31/2020 at 18:17

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I was about to look up the tallest building in Utah, but you beat me to it.

IMO, the skyline in SLC is more interesting than San Diego, because of the mountains and the fact that San Diego's buildings have height restrictions due downtown being in the flight-path of the airport.

ClassicDatsunDebate > WilliamsSW 08/31/2020 at 18:18

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It was at an event so we had the whole restaurant reserved.  Thinking back to the way they crammed everyone into those elevators....what a difference a year makes...lol.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ClassicDatsunDebate 08/31/2020 at 18:18

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Oh dude that’s amazing! I’ve never really gone up to the higher floors to take a look but not sure if the elevator requires a keycard or anything. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/31/2020 at 18:20

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Maybe an octagon would be good for getting as far apart from the other occupants as possible

onlytwowheels > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:20

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Get out on a ridge road with a clearing and look for steeples, usually the only thing taller than the trees.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/31/2020 at 18:22

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It looks good from that one specific vantage point though. One thing I’ll say about Atlanta’s tallest buildings is that they are pretty cool looks from the ground level except for the Mariott Marquis. Especially Peachtree Plaza and BoA Plaza (light up top is sweeeeet).

ClassicDatsunDebate > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:23

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If I recall, you couldn’t g et from the mall levels up to the hotel levels without a passkey. I was on the 23rd  floor if I remember so not too high up there.  Went to the tour of CNN center which was pretty neat.  Best part of the trip was the Civil War Museum though.  I’ve been back two more times since then...very cool spot.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/31/2020 at 18:24

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Haha pretty much the first road I drove on with other traffic is full of steep rolling hills so I had to learn to keep a steady speed on level ground. Better than the alternative.

Though when you are in a small car trying to get ahead of a semi before it squashes you in a narrow lane that can quicken your pulse. In a good way.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/31/2020 at 18:25

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I never pretended to have a definitive guide here.

PowderHound > OmerCarrothers333 08/31/2020 at 18:27

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I haven’t been to San Diego but looking at pictures the mountains are a good bit away . The Wasatch are right there so you get a more stark contrast

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > onlytwowheels 08/31/2020 at 18:27

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Very old time charm right there.

Thomas Donohue > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:28

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I believe I’ve been in that Westin....revolving bar is a cool place to watch a storm roll in.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ClassicDatsunDebate 08/31/2020 at 18:29

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I went on a tour of the CNN center once too. The world’s longest freestanding escalator ride was uninspiring but eh can’t win them all.

Which Civil War museum? Is that that one with the cyc lorama? I’ve always wanted to see that but I never have.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Thomas Donohue 08/31/2020 at 18:32

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I’ve never been up there. I thought the revolving restaurant stopped spinning permanently after a child got trapped between the wall and a booth and died. It was a long time ago and those pictures look fairly current so did they ever start spinning it again?

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:32

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For the relatively few people who pay to visit the top of the Smith Tower, sure, I guess. For everyone who sees it from the most common vantage point? Not so much.

The views from the Columbia Center are pretty killer, though. An ex worked on the 56th floor, and the views were good, but not quite as deluxe as those from the women’s  rooms on the 76th floor:

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:33

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Wikipedia is nothing if not inconsistent.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:34

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I usually work just down from that cult at Moscone Center.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/31/2020 at 18:34

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Wow, that would make sneaking off to the bathroom for a phone break a whole lot more appealing.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Just Jeepin' 08/31/2020 at 18:35

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He’s more of a butt plug in my estimation. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/31/2020 at 18:38

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The world is also inconsistent and nothing is black and white. Can hardly blame it.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:51

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Sky Tower in Auckland, NZ. Visible from my apartment (though not as close as the photo!). 1076’ tall. Tallest “freestanding structure” (whatever that means) in the Southern Hemisphere, according to Wiki.

Also, fun fact: in the Pacific  i sland nation of The Cook Islands, by law no building may be taller than the tallest palm tree (so about 3 stories). I’m sure this leads to property developers drowning the biggest palms in fertilizer!

Thomas Donohue > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 18:58

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Yeah, it was spinning as of last June. Not that I remember (free booze at a corporate event), but it looks like there are glass barriers at the edge.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 08/31/2020 at 19:09

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Very impressive. That’s pretty bigly. And it and Q1 tower are the only buildings in the southern hemisphere taller than Bank of American Plaza so that’s a pretty good local showing for me. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Thomas Donohue 08/31/2020 at 19:10

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Good. I didn’t know they resumed spinning but that tragic incident was enough to get it shut down for a long time. I hope to someday dine there.

Jb boin > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 19:20

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Interesting website that list tallest buildings by countries/states/cities.

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The tallest buildings in my département are simply residential buildings (and were the tallest of Europe when made in 19 67 ) called “les trois tours” (the three towers) at 98m (~320ft) , one being the Vercors tower, another being the Belledonne tower and the third one being the Mont-Blanc tower :

The condominium fees on those are prohibitive, this 125m² apartment has 7000€/year of fees !

We don’t have much tall buildings because we are in a seismic risk zone and all tall buildings must abide to strict anti- se ismic norms, making tall buildings sensibly more expensive to ma ke .

QCGoose > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/31/2020 at 20:12

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The tallest building in Iowa, the 801 Grand located in Des Moines , stands at 630', 45 stories, and was completed in 1991.

The tower is primarily offices , with the lower three floors used for retail and restaurant space.